Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

05/10/2007 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 171 JUDICIAL RETENTION CANDIDACY WITHDRAWAL TELECONFERENCED
<Above Item Removed from Agenda>
+ SB 151 NEW DRIVER'S LIC. /PERMIT:CPR/ FIRST AID TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 151(HES) Out of Committee
+= HB 132 AGRICULTURE DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 132 Out of Committee
+ HB 159 STILLBIRTH CERTIFICATE TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 159(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 75 DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 75(STA) Out of Committee
+ HB 184 MOTOR VEHICLES-LICENSE/INSURANCE/IMPOUND TELECONFERENCED
Moved SCS CSHB 184(STA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
    CSHB 75(STA) - DRIVERS LICENSE: ALCOHOL AWARENESS/MINOR                                                                 
                                                                                                                              
9:42:42 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE  announced consideration  of  HB  75. [Before  the                                                               
committee was CSHB 75(STA).]                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA  COTTING,  staff,  to  Representative  Jay  Ramras,  bill                                                               
sponsor,  introduced  CSHB 75(STA)  to  the  committee. The  bill                                                               
stipulates  that a  driver's  license issued  to  a person  under                                                               
twenty-one  will  expire  ninety  days  after  the  person  turns                                                               
twenty-one.  A  twenty-one-year-old  person applying  for  a  new                                                               
license after the  expiration date must pass an  alcohol and drug                                                               
awareness and safety  test. The test will be designed  by the DMV                                                               
and  Representative Ramras  hopes Mothers  Against Drunk  Drivers                                                               
(MADD)  will  also  participate  in  the  process.  Licenses  for                                                               
persons  over   twenty-one  and   under  twenty-one   would  look                                                               
different making  it easier  for alcohol  servers and  sellers to                                                               
detect minors.  The goal of  the bill is to  significantly reduce                                                               
under-age  drinking in  Alaska and  improve alcohol  awareness in                                                               
the  state. She  noted that  a committee  substitute (CS)  at the                                                               
request of  Mr. Bannock  of the  DMV, adds  an effective  date of                                                               
January 1, 2008.  Also included is a small fiscal  note of a one-                                                               
time $5,000 charge to initiate the process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:46:24 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE asked if the bill had a finance referral.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. COTTING answered yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN asked  if an  alcohol awareness  test existed  for                                                               
first time license applicants.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. COTTING replied not that she was aware of.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DUANE BANNOCK,  Director, Division of Motor  Vehicles, Department                                                               
of Administration, Anchorage, said  there are currently questions                                                               
in the knowledge  section of the driving  test regarding drinking                                                               
and driving.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN  asked for clarification of  the difference between                                                               
the current test and the test proposed in the bill.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK said  the bill  would create  a separate  test at  a                                                               
different time  from when  most people  take the  knowledge test.                                                               
Most  applicants take  the test  at fourteen-years-old  when they                                                               
get an instruction permit. This  bill would require a second test                                                               
at  the expiration  of the  driver  license when  a driver  turns                                                               
twenty-one.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:48:49 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH asked what the cost of the test would be.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BANNOCK said  DMV would  charge a  $15 fee  for a  duplicate                                                               
license, but the test itself would be free of charge.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  where the driver would  get the information                                                               
necessary to pass the test.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK  said it would not  be proper for the  DMV to provide                                                               
the information. However, it would  be appropriate for the DMV to                                                               
be the distribution point of a booklet or pamphlet.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:50:19 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE noted that Representative  Ramras does not want the                                                               
CS  adopted today.  She said  the committee  should work  off the                                                               
original bill labeled 25-LS0348\K.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN asked  how the requirement would apply  to a forty-                                                               
seven-year-old from out of state seeking a license.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAY  RAMRAS,  Alaska State  Legislature,  Juneau,                                                               
said  the  requirement  would  not apply  to  people  older  than                                                               
twenty-one or  people moving  into the  state older  than twenty-                                                               
one.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:51:31 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  asked how  the provision  would apply  to twenty-                                                               
one-year-old  out   of  state   military  personnel   or  college                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS said Mr. Bannock  of the DMV could speak to                                                               
this question.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BANNOCK said licenses held  by active duty military personnel                                                               
have  no expiration  date  while they  are out  of  the State  of                                                               
Alaska.  However,  their  license   will  expire  90  days  after                                                               
returning  to the  state  or after  separating  from active  duty                                                               
service, whichever  comes first. The DMV  has statutory authority                                                               
to offer expiration extensions to college students.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:53:16 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR FRENCH  asked who will  develop the training  required by                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  the present  general knowledge  test                                                               
contains  one thousand  questions in  the pool.  An applicant  is                                                               
given  sixteen questions  out of  the  pool to  answer; eight  on                                                               
driving,  four on  insurance, and  four on  alcohol. He  would be                                                               
very comfortable  if the  Department of  Public Safety  (DPS) and                                                               
MADD put  the second  test together, under  the direction  of the                                                               
DMV. Alcohol related  questions could also be  generated from the                                                               
pool that already exists.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:54:36 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  Representative  Ramras to  speak about  the                                                               
policy goals of the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  he  has two  objectives.  One is  to                                                               
clarify  the age  line between  minors  and adults.  He said  the                                                               
Alcohol  Beverage Control  Board  (ABC)  has conducted  extensive                                                               
stings over the  last few years showing "there is  a leakage rate                                                               
amongst  minors  being  served   in  on-premise  and  off-premise                                                               
establishments."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH asked  for clarification  of  the terms  "leakage                                                               
rate" and "predator."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS said  "leakage  rate" is  not an  industry                                                               
term but  one he  uses to  describe the  numbers of  minors being                                                               
served  by operators.  He considers  any young  person under  the                                                               
legal  age that  tries to  secure an  alcoholic beverage  and any                                                               
licensee who sells alcohol to a minor, a predator.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RAMRAS reiterated that the  first half of the bill                                                               
establishes a clearer line between a  minor and an adult with the                                                               
automatic  expiration component.  The second  component addresses                                                               
the  need for  more comprehensive  education about  the risks  of                                                               
consuming alcohol  and driving.  A twenty-one-year-old  is moving                                                               
through  a very  influential phase  of life  when alcohol  use is                                                               
merging with the responsibility of  driving. He believes it is in                                                               
the best interest for the  safety of communities and young people                                                               
to consider both halves of this bill.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:21 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR FRENCH  said he  agrees with  the intent  of the  bill to                                                               
reduce DUI citations and save  lives. He also likes the landscape                                                               
versus   portrait  orientation   to  differentiate   age  groups.                                                               
However, he  wants to  see evidence  that required  testing would                                                               
change behavior.  He mentioned  DARE as an  example of  a program                                                               
that was supposed  to work and after a couple  of years found out                                                               
it had very little impact on young people's behavior.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:51 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said she agrees with  Senator French's statements.                                                               
She advised  Representative Ramras to provide  details about what                                                               
the test  will look like and  how it will be  administered. Other                                                               
details to  consider are costs, effectiveness,  and comparison to                                                               
other states that may have  a similar program. She also suggested                                                               
having someone from DPS or MADD speak to the bill.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RAMRAS agreed  those were  excellent suggestions.                                                               
He said  he envisions alcohol  education being  incorporated into                                                               
the DMV  handbook. Since the  general knowledge test  is designed                                                               
for  a fourteen-year-old  to pass,  he thinks  this will  help to                                                               
institutionalize the dissemination  of more information regarding                                                               
drinking and driving.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:05:03 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  MCGUIRE said  Representative Ramras  should outline  costs                                                               
and how the program will work for the Finance Committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:06:06 AM                                                                                                                   
SHIRLEY MARSHAL,  representing herself, said she  supports HB 75.                                                               
She said  seven years pass  between the time  a fourteen-year-old                                                               
takes  the written  test and  when  they renew  their license  at                                                               
twenty-one. At twenty-one,  the driver renews with  no written or                                                               
driving  test.  She believes  a  written  test regarding  current                                                               
alcohol awareness  is a  great idea when  a driver  turns twenty-                                                               
one.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:08:11 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR MCGUIRE closed public testimony on HB 75.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  moved  to  report HB  75  from  committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  attached  fiscal  notes.  There                                                               
being  no objection,  CSHB 75(STA)  moved from  the Senate  State                                                               
Affairs Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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